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Thursday, March 13, 2008

Preaching hate

Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
Sen. Barack Obama's pastor says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America."
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An ABC News review of dozens of Rev. Wright's sermons, offered for sale by the church, found repeated denunciations of the U.S. based on what he described as his reading of the Gospels and the treatment of black Americans.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."
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In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.
The question is, Does Obama agree with these sermons?

Obama has referred to Wright as his spiritual mentor. Obama chose this racist demagogue as his pastor for decades

And as a Christian, I am also offended by the Jesus/Obama analogy.

(On a lighter note, someone tell the Reverend that the Romans were not Italian. Italy didn't come into existence until over a thousand years later.)

More at Sister Toldjah.

UPDATE
Via Maria, Thomas Sowell writes about 'Non-Judgmental' Nonsense
Currently, various facts are belatedly beginning to leak out that give us clues to the character of Barack Obama. But to report these facts is being characterized as a "personal" attack.


Barack Obama's personal and financial association with a man under criminal indictment in Illinois is not just a "personal" matter. Nor is his 20 years of going to a church whose pastor has praised Louis Farrakhan and condemned the United States in both sweeping terms and with obscene language.


The Obama camp likens mentioning such things to criticizing him because of what members of his family might have said or done. But it was said, long ago, that you can pick your friends but not your relatives.


Obama chose to be part of that church for 20 years. He was not born into it. His "personal" character matters, just as Eliot Spitzer's "personal" character matters — and just as Hillary Clinton's character would matter if she had any.


Update 2
Via Liz, who found it at LGF


Jeremiah Wright, Steinem & Primacy of Victimhood
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8 Comments:

At 4:46 PM, Blogger Anthony (Los Angeles) said...

"On a lighter note, someone tell the Reverend that the Romans were not Italian. Italy didn't come into existence until over a thousand years later."

Wellll.... the peninsula was called "Italia" in Latin literature during the Republic and Empire, and Rome allies on the peninsula were referred to as "Italians." In fact, the Social War of 91-88 BC (when the Allies revolted against Rome) is also called the "Italian Wars." So, in that sense, Italy and Italians did exist.

But, in Rev. Demagogue's sense, nah.

 
At 5:16 PM, Blogger Fausta said...

Anthony, you are Da Man!
I stand corrected.

 
At 5:45 PM, Blogger Pat Patterson said...

I'm not so sure about that as the various locales were referred to by the name they gave themselves, ie., the Latins or Latium which included Rome, the Etruscans, the Samnites, the Gauls and the Greeks. The Social War was when the socii, a form of associates or amicii of Rome that did not consider themselves bound by treaty, rebelled not understanding or willing to acknowledge that to the Romans they were indeed allies and auxilliaries that owed obedience to Roman interests.

Italia was originally the Greek term for people that lived on the peninsulla but the Romans considered that merely a geographic reference and continued to refer to those not Romans as either Latins or by their tribal names. The main extant source on this period is from the Civil Wars by Appian which mostly referred to the rebelling peoples as them or worse as servus, slaves. A telling insult in Rome during the Republic and Early Empire.

The modern comparison would be to refer to someone as coming from or residing in the Western Hemisphere which would obviously have no political or ethnic meaning. A Roman even as late as Honorius in the 4th and 5th Century when Byzantium began to stabilize the West and used the old Greek terminology fo the inhabitants of the peninsulla.

 
At 6:13 PM, Blogger Anthony (Los Angeles) said...

It's been a looooong time since I read Livy (we still had to use slide rules in math classes :) ), but I think Britannica backs me up:

The peoples of the hills of central Italy formed the heart of the uprising, the Marsi in the north and the Samnites in the south. Neither the Latin colonies nor Etruria and Umbria joined in. The Italians began organizing their own confederacy; they established their headquarters at Corfinium, which they renamed Italia,...

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9068461/Social-War

Which makes me realize it's been far too long since I've read any Ancient History. Anyone else find this war with jihadist Islam has has pushed you to rediscover our civilization's roots?

 
At 6:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can a family with four Ivy League degrees listen to such a historically illiterate racist? I don't mean the Italian thing, but rather his apparent ignorance of the Arab slave trade and the horrors of the war in the Pacific. How can they take their daughters to such a place?
I read somewhere on the web that Oprah is also a member of the congregation.
expat

 
At 6:37 PM, Blogger Fausta said...

Anyone else find this war with jihadist Islam has has pushed you to rediscover our civilization's roots?
I have - indeed, my recently-developed interest on the Middle Ages is due to my wanting to know what the "Dark Ages" were like. The "Dark Ages" weren't "Dark".

 
At 11:44 PM, Blogger Pat Patterson said...

I think even the Encyclopedia Britannica justifies Fausta's comment as it is clear that the Romans did not consider themselves Italian. It was almost over 475 years later before anyone else began referring to Italians, and even then only at the instigation of the emperors of the East and after the capitol wass moved to Ravenna and then Alaric sacked Rome.

In another light Rev. Wright does seem to have an uncanny knack for saying the same type of inanities as Fred Phelps.

 
At 1:10 AM, Blogger newton said...

"In another light Rev. Wright does seem to have an uncanny knack for saying the same type of inanities as Fred Phelps."

More like Louis Farrakhan, IMHO.

The Apostle Peter spoke about people like Wright, as false teachers who "speak damnable heresies" and "promising them liberty, they are themselves servants of corruption".

For Barack Obama to think this "Reverend" has had no influence in his (or his wife's) thinking for about twenty years, he must think we're fools.

 

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